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Psychedelics, UFOs, and Disinformation PDF Print E-mail
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Monday, 16 November 2009
Hybrid Research

 !- Comment -! - Juliano wrote this short piece and asked for it to be published. The issue of entheogenic plant use and the 'alien' phenomenon is not a new one and appears to have core, fundamental links. He is happy to receive feedback either directly via the comments system or you can mail the site and we'll pass things on.

Psychedelics, UFOs, and Disinformation:
 
I am aware of divisions in UFology. Briefly we can categorize these divisions as: the Exopolitical group; the 'Nuts and Bolts' UFO/ET groups; and the UFOS-are-strictly man-made group. If I have missed any one out, I'm sorry. I would like  though to add the psychedelics and UFO group to which few seem to want to join. Notably the late Terrence McKenna, and the new 'kid' on the block, Ananda Bosman--please view his talk which ias shown in the video: Ananda Bosman Hadronic Mechanics & Entheogens are the main explorers of this seemingly exotoc variety.

I am very aware of the rabbit hole nature of trying to research the UFO phenomena. I am fresh from the post 9/11 conspiracy theories experience so have much experience in rabbit holes ;). Out of the frying pan into the fire!
 
I think that if something seems very complex then it needs to be simplified in some way. How to do so I shall tentatively expore.
 
What personally got me re-involved with looking into the UFO phenomena was finding the video talk by Ananda Bosman, and especially two things he talks about in his talk. One, his inisistence that the UFO field and the psychedelic field should be brought together, and, two, his explnations about Hadronic Mechanics which, he claims, greatly supercedes even Quantum Mechanics in the serious 'objective' for understanding the "magical" nature of the atom, molecules, and thus biology! This struck home with me, because from what I have read about peoples experiences with UFOs and their entities,  it does seem very magical. These experiences undermine our set notions about 'materiality', for example, so if there is an inroad for 'objective' science to begin understanding the magical nature of reality then this 'new science'  to me is very seductive. For it seems to me that generally there is this division between the 'weirdness' of the phenomena of UFOs, and other forms of paranormal, and nonordinary experience, and the regular demand for 'evidence' by science---this seemingly endless impasse.
 
It has to be said though, that as far as I am aware there is evidence which would satisfy real science (rather than scientism)--and that even the respected scientist, Jacques Vallee, claimed to have seen a UFO which was also witnessed by others. excrete a molten liquid some of which Vallee has in his possesion!
 
But what a deeper more magical understanding of 'solid reality' will do is open up the scientific mind--and others minds--to the possibility that peoples reports of extremely weird experiences like, for example, passing through walls, etc--may have some reality to them. Ie., it will expand our very notions of reality.
 
I personally feel it extremely important to encourage decompartmentalization when attempting to understand UFOs, the paranormal, and all other non-ordinary experience. So, for instance, if we look at science per se, at QM, we see that a question that is becoming central for them is the question of 'what is consciousness?' and also 'what is matter?' Because, believe it or not, despite great technological innovations, courtesy of QM, these questions are still a very great mystery, therefore being aware of this when we are looking at what UFOs may mean. How can something be 'solid' then 'not', seen then not, travel faster than light?? Seemingly defy spacetime' as it is understood. And what is the relation of all this to our consciousness when trying to understand this?
 
This is where psychedelics or entheogens come in. Our culture on the whole assumes that the psychedelic experience is merely a chemical event, and/or merely 'hallucinations'. So, in other words, their is a cultural presupposition about psychedelic, or sacred experience, influenced in great part by the mechanistic assumptions about reality. I see that same mindset judging entheogenic experience as being inconsequential the very same as the one judging the UFO phenomena, especially in its weirder aspects--as reported by many experiencers.
 
However, if  there was more an accepted informed knowledge about the psychedelic field (which very much includes indigenous knowledge and experience of sacred plants) in science generally, and the UFO community, then there'd be a better understanding of a deep interelated connection between consciousness and 'objective' reality, and  of the need of hypnosis, for example,for people who claim to have been abducted. Even the openminded, but careful, UFO researcher Jacques Vallee looked down on hypnosis --as he said it was conducted--because it 'led' the subject.
 
But if one looks at vast consciousness research done with psychedelics it is found that traumatic events can be re-lived via psychedelic experience in sessions carried out with care and intelligence, and love. In fact it is so that for people who have had serious addiction problems, rape, diseases, etc,  that the simple act of remembering some past events in their life which had been forgotten, or repressed,  can have dramatic healing effects when remembered! So what I am also saying then is that this hypnosis for people/abuctees who have traumatically lost time, and yet feel very uncomfortable with this void, then if all that is avialable for retrieving memories is hypnosis than that mustn't be looked at as a mere cold objective need for the 'investogator', or for 'Ufology', but actual healing for their trauma, and/or the very fact they have lost time and they don't know why, and need to remember. Of course, some claim to have un-suppressed memories of the events also.
 
So, what is disinformation then?
 
 Many Nuts and Bolt type UFO investigators, as well as researcher of the same ilk as Vallee--who are open to the transdimensionality of UFo phenomena--may heavily criticize, EXO, and Steven Greer, etc, for accepting very strange testimony from "whistleblower" and "insiders" where these is no substantial proof to back up claims, and also if there is presented evidence, and this is found to have holes in it the excuse is that it has to have precisley because of pressure from other oppressive forces, and that the resulting disinfo is a form of 'protection'--- very convenient to tell BIG porkies (lies).
 Wasn't it Hitler and his propaganderist, Goebbels, who even admitted that the bigger the lie the more likely it will be believed by a substantial portion of the populace--especially when reinforced with other propaganda and psychological techniques?
 
I think it is wise to distiguish between the 'ordinary people' who report very strange experience, and so-called 'insiders' and 'whistleblowers'--professional talkers-- who make outrageous claims--like being able to teleport to Mars, etc--without any evidence to support their claims, yet doing the rounds of the UFO circuits and making money at the same time.
 
Have any of them taken lie detector tests? Is it fair that if such off-the-wall claims are seriously questioned that such questioners get called 'hysterical' by the main movers of the EXO movement, etc? I feel that questions are one of the most important things. Not in a hostile accusatory way, but as an accepted means of natural discourse to find out what is real.
 
I welcome questions.

 

» 1 Comment
1"shyte or shinola"
at Sunday, 22 November 2009 23:04by j.*A*.g
what good would introducing lie detectors do? 
 
if you're looking for an objective view on "the truth", you're in for a long wait, chances are. Ditto if you avail yourself of enths, in the proper dose, set and setting scenario. Reality is subjective, yet paradoxically is also constructed from overlapping language references, so is derived via consensus. 
 
you can of course (if you have the rare opportunity of lifestyle to let yourself go for a few months/years, with no guarantee of coming back) go pedal to the metal with entheogens and find many mysterious alienesque datastreams available to dissect and view within your very being. As experience is focussed from within, it is easier to find your truth resonating within your own being, than to accept blithely that which someone else you don't know and have never met, claims to be the truth. Does that make your truth, glean by entheogens any more real or valid? 
 
the discernment of maya is primary in shamenism. 
 
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