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My first UFO Conference
From: http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com
Okay, My name is
Andy Murray aka murnut and here is my report of my first UFO
conference. It was sponsored by the Budd Hopkins Intruders Foundation… http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/ … The ticket cost thirty bucks.
It
was held in NYC, I live about an hour and a half away by train away
from it. The event was within 2 blocks of Penn Station. It was to start
at 7:30 pm but as excited as I was, I arrived at 7.
The event
was held in a small room and there were about 60-70 people in
attendance. The crowd was mostly older, late 50’s -60’s and all of the
seats were taken.
Budd opened the meeting at 7:35pm and thanked us all for coming. He proceeded to thank James Fox www.outofthebluethemovie.com/ …and the main speaker for the night, Leslie Kean www.freedomofinfo.org
Budd went on to tell us about Leslie’s background as a reporter.
She is the one who got a judge to force NASA to search its records about the Kecksburg, PA. UFO crash.
Leslie
came to the podium with heavy applause. She mostly spoke about the
Press conference held on Nov 12 at the National Press Club. She and
James Fox organized the event. The planning took place for over a year,
starting in August of 2006.
During the planning, there were certain principals that she and James wanted to maintain.
Summary of the principles
The main principle was to increase credibility. It seems to have worked.
The
witnesses were to read their accounts from a pre-approved script,
Leslie and James did not want to give any fodder to the media.
They only wanted the best UFO witnesses, pilots, Govt employees, military, documented cases…etc.
They
also invited the USA Govt to participate in the event. No reply was
received. They took a non-accusatory stance towards our lack of
government action.
They purposely left the ET/Alien question out of the discussions as a way to not cloud the issue.
Part
of the serious hook was the Aviation safety aspect. Did you know that
the FAA radars have many types of filters built in that screen out most
unknowns? I did not.
They only track “knowns” for the most part. This is the way the FAA wants it. They want nothing to do with UFO’s.
Back
to the planning stages Leslie briefed us on….the witnesses arrived 3
days before the event. James Fox filmed the whole 3 –days as material
for a new movie he has coming out, to be released in theaters.
The witnesses had not met each other before and they enjoyed some time together practicing for the big day.
Leslie
Kean went on to emphasize that she was extremely concerned about the
media taking the issue seriously. She stressed that the witnesses were
to stay on script and not give any potential fodder to the media.
They kept the press conference secret until 1 week before the event.
A list of the witnesses is list on her website mentioned above.
She
then played select parts from a DVD of the 11/12/07press conference
giving us a little background on each witness. She did not play them
all, as there was not enough time.
She played Fife Symington remarks first; he moderated the conference as well as told of his experience with the Phoenix lights.
I
had always held a grudge with Fife, for that press conference he held
after the Phoenix lights sighting, trotting out his assistant dressed
up as an alien in handcuffs.
But his speech was in fact pretty
convincing as to why he did it, and his own account of sighting the
craft that night was moving. He was credible, convincing, and
encouraged openness and a logical pursuit of the facts.
He
points to two events that night, the original large craft that he and
others saw at 8:30pm and the flares at about 10pm. Most of the footage
you see about this event are the flares.
Next the video turned to Ray Bowyer http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=25606
What I was left with about his testimony was the stark difference between our FAA and Airlines, and the British.
Ray Bowyer stated that it would be against the law for him not to report the incident.
He
has suffered no ridicule or repercussions from his report. Just compare
that with the FAA and United airlines handling of the O’Hare sighting.
Extremely
credible he was in his presentation. He stated that it his
understanding the FAA refers all attempted reporting of UFO reports to
the National UFO reporting center, www.nuforc.org . The FAA does not investigate.
All through these video replays, Leslie continued to add insightful comments.
Next up on the DVD, was Nick Pope, who ran UFO sighting investigations for the British MOD http://www.nickpope.net/
. Again a stark difference was apparent between our Govt’s lack of
investigation and the rest of the worlds. He spoke of his background
and said that out of 10,000 ufo reports in the UK, 5% remain
unexplained.
He introduced James Penniston – TSgt, US Air Force (Ret.) of the Rendlesham Forrest sighting. http://www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk/ .
Again
this witness was credible. James stated that there were over 60
witnesses to this event. He was told never to discuss the event by a
DIA debriefer.
Here are some more of the participants that Leslie played from the DVD
Parviz Jafari – General, Iranian Air Force (Ret) Excellent witnesses and there is a DIA report of this encounter. http://www.nicap.org/tehran1.htm
Wilfried De Brouwer - Major General, Deputy Chief of Staff Operations and Planning (Ret.)
Belgian Air Force. He investigated the Belgium UFO Black triangle flap of the late 1980’s. http://www.nationalufocenter.com/ufo/images/Belgian%20Triangle.jpg
Jean-Claude
Ribes - Astronomer, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique,
France, 1963-1998. He commented on the Cometa report, and talk about
the French releasing their UFO files on line.
John Callahan - Division Chief of Accidents, Evaluations and Investigations, FAA (Ret.)
Callahan’s
remarks were impressive. Leslie stated he was the only one to go off
script, but it was not to the detriment of his testimony.
Most should be aware of his story having to do with Japanese pilots sighting of an enormous UFO over Anchorage Alaska. http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/JALalaska.htm
He stated that the CIA took over the case and swore everyone to secrecy.
But
John kept copies of all the data. Leslie commented that they tried to
find the actual pilots in Japan, even hiring a private investigator.
They did locate one of the pilots, but his wife was opposed, saying “No
UFO, No UFO”
After a short break for refreshments, a short
question and answer period ensued, most having to do with the
perception of the U.S. media with regards to the UFO question.
Leslie
offered comments from her experience, notably her discussions with
other reporters. Apparently there is a UFO bias among reporters.
One
reporter related to Leslie that he does not want to cover UFO’s for
fear that he would get stuck with all the “weird” stories.
Leslie
also went on the say that she has made many contacts in the media,
Govt, and military over the past year and she is working on a number of
UFO projects. Most of her attention now is on keeping these credible
stories in the media’s eye.
The main focus of the Press
Conference, according to Leslie, was to bring attention to the fact
that there is no official Govt investigating body here in the States.
At the end I will post a link to the Declaration.
She did say that with the upcoming election, no lawmakers will take a stand now, although some have expressed an interest.
After the event ended, I took the opportunity to briefly speak with Leslie.
I asked if John Callahan could remember the name of the CIA official who debriefed him, and apparently, he can’t remember.
I asked her about making Freedom of Information requests, since my own request has been not been answered yet.
She stated that all requests should be done with certified mail, so that someone has to sign for it.
We also had a brief discussion about which Govt agency should over see the new initiative…a la Project Blue Book.
All
agreed that Blue book was a failure. Some wanted an independent
commission, some wanted it done at the University level, some suggested
NASA, and however, Kean laughed at that. She is suing NASA at the
moment.
My idea was Homeland Security. The only trouble is that
I have little faith in any of these really. Most likely it would just
be spun whatever way the real insiders want it spun. A sham commission,
if you will. But I remain open minded that Leslie can find a way.
The
general consensus of this group was the US govt maybe investigating
UFO’s privately. The testimony of the witnesses seems to confirm this.
Many FOI documents indicate a private effort as well.
There was
speculation as to why the public silence from the US Govt. Some
expressed opinions that the Govt just does not know what to tell us.
The Govt has no answers to give us.
Others think that the answers lie in U.S. Black projects.
At this point, it was almost 10pm and we all were being asked to leave.
Luckily,
I bumped into Robert Morningstar on the way out who proceeded to tell
me about his latest project “The Battle of Los Angeles” sighting of the
1940’s.
He stated to me that he has credible information, that
the UFO was a giant Black triangle. He is in the process of preparing
his report.
All in all I thoroughly enjoyed this meeting and
I was left with the hope that Leslie Kean is the best hope the UFO
community has for mainstream acceptance.
She is media savvy, and has added much needed credibility to this subject. I am going to follow her work closely in the future.
Will certainly be attending more events in the future.
Budd
Hopkins told me he is working on getting the Rendlesham Forrest
witness, James Penniston for the next event. I will be there.
Andy Murray
http://www.freedomofinfo.org/national_press_07/declartion.pdf
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