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Crop Circles in England and 2012 Symbolism PDF Print E-mail
Written by davID   
Tuesday, 03 July 2007

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This morning my friend Dr. Simeon Hein called to tell me that he had taken Ron Russell's tour to Avebury in the morning, and discovered a new crop formation adjacent to the North-West quadrant of the henge.  Normally I would have immediately gone to have a look, as Avebury is close by, but I was tired from a late night, and just stayed in bed working on Email.  

But then around noon my pilot, Dai Dobbs, wrote to say that he had bought a new 3-axis micro-light aircraft, and would I like to go for a cruse -- oh, boy, WOULD I?!

So soon we were headed for the new circle, and got good shots. 

The new formation is obviously a diagrammatic representation of the Sun and planets (with no care for proper astronomical proportions).  But the smaller inner ones (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars) are clearly delineated from the giant outer ones (Jupiter, Saturn Uranus and Neptune). 

And there is a huge Sun with an unusual reversing swirl lay. 

As for Pluto, is it another small planet and displayed the same as the little inner ones, with a small size and thin orbital line.  I also know enough to recognize that it's orbit is symbolically correct in that it goes well outside of Neptune’s path for most of the way, but for a while it is within the Sea God's orbit (note the upper left hand part). 

I have an astronomer friend who I asked to check the planetary positions, but he said they do not match the present time.

Peter Sorensen



Images Gary King - WCCSG Copyright 2008


The crop circle formation at Avebury Manor seems to depict our solar-system (not in proportional scale) on December 21, (+/-) 2012 - the highly debated end of the Mayan calendar (or at least one of the most prominent interpretations of that date). Whatever this means and who-or-whatever created this crop circle, I do not know - but the basic message of it is quite clear.

Andreas Müller
www.kornkreise-forschung.de
www.cropcirclescience.org



Diagram Tommy Borms Copyright 2008


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Avebury Manor  of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto

The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.

Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawn in this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).


December 21 or 23, 2012?
 

Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).  

Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse's mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC (see HERE or HERE).

Crop swirls within its central "Sun" tell us which way the planets are moving!

RED COLLIE


Diagram Bertold Zugelder Copyright 2008


COMMENTS

I was just thinking, that weird triangle formation that you saw going from one formation to the flower of life. It reminds me of the the way the grid/leylines are laid out on the planet. Triangles of various sizes and shapes. I can't think of anything else that it would represent right now.

This appears to me as a "golden ratio" attempt, utilizing The Fibonacci  numbers to create a "golden spiral" or a "Fibonacci spiral amongst the planets, If you look carefully, you will easily notice the "decent" of the furthest planet, making its way down to a perfect spiral toward to the centre of the circle. 

Apollo


I think this new solar system formation at Avebury is showing the date Dec 21st, 2012.Type in the date and click update and see for yourself! 

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

Andy Fowlds


For those trying to figure out what date is being depicted in the recent July 14, 2008 "solar system" crop circle at Avebury Manor, here is a very helpful site: http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

You can plug in any date and it will show you a picture of where the planets are.  The general diagram is identical to the one in the crop circle, but so far I have been unable to get the planets to line up in the same positions as the crop circle. 2011 does not work, for example, but it is close.   Maybe someone else will have better luck.

Charles Montgomery


Here is what we did with the last Solar System crop circle, T367
 
http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/barry/2008impact.html
THE 2008 IMPACT THREAT

T367 seems to be a valid alien crop circle because.
 
1. The planets orbits are not circular
2. The offset of the Sun from the centre of the circle is in the right direction for our suspected dark star.
3. The grapeshot meteors/comets have fragments leading and trailing them and these  fragments (fireballs) impacted earth at the proper date/position in Earth's orbit.  Intense fireball count from the broken comet were observed to begin in 2007, on about 11 August as predicted. See: HERE
 
The July 2008 data is just coming in. It shows activity at the predicted times, but no impacts so far. See: HERE
 
I need a vertical shot of then 15 July crop circle, but the Mayan calendar date is well known. Is there anything else on this circle that is new or unusual?  Like the Grapeshot in T367? If there is no new testable information, this crop circle may be a fraud.  But it looks pretty well made.
 
Barry Warmkessel


Did anyone tell you that the new crop circle at Avebury Manor (15th July) gives the exact planetary positions for December 21. 2012:  The end of the Mayan Calendar, and the start of the new cycle.

There is only one planet placed wrongly in the formation; Pluto is 30ª to close to Neptune. But even the planetoid Chiron is there close to Neptune, between the circles of Uranus and Saturn. Astrologers will notice all the good aspects to Earth from the other planets

Click on thumbnail to enlarge

Øivind Westby


I have a theory... regarding: Avebury Manor, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 15th July. In the little report regarding this circle it says "Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawn in this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case." no one seems to have thought why?

while is was reading this:
Barbury Castle, nr Wroughton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June. it hit me!!!! Pluto's orbit may have been altered due to the passing of a large body! Nibiru! it could also explain why its orbit is already so strange (Nibiru has come before).  Is there any way you guys can pursue this or is there any contacts you can give me (astrophysists and such) so I can research it further.... surely a simulation can confirm this??! if so, I believe the evidence of another planet is indeed very hard to deny.

Stephen Paoli


2012 Crop Circle (July 15, 2008)

An interesting crop circle appeared July 15, 2008 that has the position of the planets around Dec 21, 2012. 

This crop circle appeared on 9 AHAU in the Mayan Tzolkin calendar and thus has a connection to the 4 AHAU that our cycle ends on Winter Solstice 2012.


This crop circles appeared on Mayan longcount 12.19.15.9.0 exactly 1620 days before longcount 13.0.0.0.0 (winter solstice 2012)


This gap of 1620 days would be significant to Mayans because they often looked at the gap between two dates. This gap of 1620 days is 6 complete Tzolkin cycles plus 60 days (260 x 6) + 60 = 1620


The 6 complete Tzolkin cycles might have several meanings but the simplest and most direct is the 6th Mayan glyph of CIMI which relates to death and transformation. This is exactly what will be happening on the Winter Solstice 2012 the death of a 13 Baktun cycle and transformation into a new cycle that some call the "6th Sun".


But remember (260 x 6) + 60 = 1620, what about the 60?


60 would relate to the Mayan leader of Palenque "Pakal" whose famous tomb lid is one of the most recognized piece of Mayan art. Pakal was born on kin 60 in the Mayan Tzolkin also called 8 AHAU.


Pakal's birth of 8 AHAU has an obvious relation to the 9 AHAU on which this crop circle appeared.


And when Pakal's birth and this crop circle's appearance are united it also points to Winter solstice 2012. Pakal's birth was 8 AHAU (kin 60) in the Mayan Tzolkin and this crop circle appeared on 9 AHAU (kin 100) in the Mayan Tzolkin and when united we find:


 kin 60 + kin 100 = kin 160  What is kin 160 in the Mayan Tzolkin?

   Kin 160 is 4 AHAU which occurs on Dec. 21, 2012

This indicates there is some important connection between Pakal the Mayan leader of Palenque and the end of the 13 Baktun cycle on the Winter solstice of 2012. The important connection is written on Pakal's tomb lid at the Temple of Inscriptions at Palenque and hopefully  Mayan leader
Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj (Wandering Wolf) can  explain the message of Pakal's lid.

  o         
o  o     Blessings - Mark


The planetary glyph depicted seems to show a date of approximately 15 September this year (2008). I arrived at this estimate using "Solar System Live" software freely available on the net. i tried many combinations and this date seemed to give the closest approximation.  I used the "Real" Orbits attribute. You may want to try this yourself. Since I'm not an expert at astronomy, this estimate may not be valid, but I believe it is close. I'd be interested in finding out what the "experts" come up with.

UPDATE

Thank you.  After reading the other entries regarding the date as being 22 / 23 December 2012, I believe that they are correct, and I am wrong.  I plugged the 22 December date into the astronomy software and the positions seem to be closer to the glyph than the date I had mentioned. It's tricky looking at the plotted planetary positions that the software shows and comparing it with the glyph. Thanks again and apologies for getting it wrong.

Norberto Pellicci


I was reading the post about the new crop circle that points to December 12, 2012 and was wondering if anyone has done any calculations to include "planet x" of which there is growing controversy and discussion?  Zechariah Stitchin writes about it in his series of books, but also some discoveries recently indicate that there is a distant star/planet with an elliptical orbit that is predicted to enter our solar system.  The theory is that it does so every so many years and 2012 has been name as a particular year when this star or planet will be closest to the earth?  At any rate it would be interesting to see what the graphs show including this theorized planet and subsequent re-entering of our solar system.

Tim Hill

 

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