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Response to McKinnon Ruling PDF Print E-mail
Written by davID   
Thursday, 31 July 2008

This is a response by Alfred Webre of Exopolitics.com to comments made on Gary McKinnon's case support by david from exopolitics uk:

davID - Hi! I agree that these are difficult times and that Gary
McKinnon's fate lies in the balance.

I think it is important as well to set the record straight as to what
the U.S. Exopolitical community's concerned role was during the
pendency of Gary's appeal before the Law Lord's.

A considerable number of Exopolitics activists gathered via email and
expressed concern that in fact - as you stated - a community and media
campaign was not going forward on behalf of Gary concurrent with his
appeal. Media and community activism is a component part of political
cases in the USA, and this concern was expressed in the group.

The consensus was to approach Gary and his family as well as his
solicitors, and not to engage in community and media activism unless
we received the approval of these parties.

We attempted to communicate with the Solicitors, with Gary and with
his family and were not successful in getting an approval to go
forward with an activist Exopoltical community and media campaign,
which we were prepared to carry out.

I personally felt this was a strategic error on behalf of Gary's legal
team, and still do, especially given the remarks of Gary's solicitor
on the BBC TV today to the effect that the UK had not prosecuted Gary
because they wanted to give full berth to the USA to do so.  That
makes this a political case, and I do not understand the logic of
Gary's solicitors in not wanting us to raise the UFO political issue
widely and loudly.

Watch her remarks on BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7533221.stm

So, I must dis-agree with your assessment about any notion of our
Exopolitical community's failure in the Gary McKinnon Case.  We were
ready.  We were able.  We were deterred.

Don't blame the victims.  Blame the perps - The military-intelligence
agencies that are in full Psyops mode at the present.

EXOPOLITICS RADIO has covered Gary's case and will broadcast a special
program on the miscarriage of justice here and blatant conspiracy, on
Saturday August 2, 2008 at 8 PM PDT at

http://www.exopoliticsradio.com

Cheers!

Alfred

 ==

And a follow-up:

Hi Alfred,

Thanks for your feedback. Having discussed the McKinnon issue with yourself at length over recent years I am aware that some people have indeed offered support and advice where they can. In fact the exopolitics community probably added more in this way than the wider UFO field if we were to create a distinction. If I recall, we even offered your services and experience as a global legal expert to Gary's family.

My main point was that at it's heart, the McKinnon case *is* exopolitical -  in fact, I don't think I can personally think of a situation that fits the term more than a researcher seeking embargoed information and subsequently facing incarceration for it by a layer of the dominant power structure.

You mention the point about approaching his family and legal team on support issues and what to offer support on. This has been a delicate problem for those involved all along and any of us in their situation would have the same quandry I suspect. The fact remains [as they saw it] that if Gary had become a 'poster boy' for disclosure or the UFO issue - it may have brought further problems to sway the final outcome. When we're talking about the fact someones freedom is in the balance then I can understand this hesitation. It doesn't mean all of us thought this way and my strong suspicion is that Gary himself would have actually *welcomed* a more formal layer of support from the disclosure field. He certainly wasn't afraid to comment on the 9/11 issue in an interview done only a few days back.

A couple of points come to mind. One is that the case has been going on since 2001/2. We knew several years back that an extradition was being sought or at least that the US military were going to ensure he got made an example of in a disproportionate manner. Very little was organised or highlighted by this community in that time. We were all happy to endlessly debate and discuss the 2 or 3 *significant* gems of disclosure type information he found but less interested when it came to ensuring a researcher did not suffer for seeking such information.

Secondly - the support did not have to be direct: given the legal teams concerns [whatever we think of this] we had to steer around this and think of other avenues. I think we ultmately ended up just following proceedings and letting the narrative be defined for us rather than attempting to intervene now and then and nudge the debate to more fruitful areas. I realise it's a huge task as it meant taking on the vast machine that was rolling from military to media to public and on an area already difficult to raise and discuss freely but in other areas where someone has taken a stand for truth this has happened so where was it in the broader field here? Given that most people who consider themselves as role-players in the exopolitics/free-energy/UFO area should be painfully aware of how difficult the topic is to approach with the wider population outside - we should also realise that extra effort is required when someone from within our community, with altruistic intention, tries to act and gets caught out.

Whatever your views "morally" on what McKinnon did -  the fact is a truth seeker who wanted to gain nothing for himself in his search is now facing  a huge jail term as a scapegoat when the many other REAL threats that were on the networks [Chinese intelligence for example?] are still out there. Punish him for minor computer infringements but don't buy the hype ont he rest of it to the point where it becomes something not worth acting upon.

As I said in my first piece -  my fear is that we have *other* casualties in coming years of truth seeking who may break laws and get caught - I just hope we have a shift in priorities and get systems in place to stop them being scape-goated for the rest of us. Again -  I'm not criticising any individuals or even groups of individuals over this - it's more the overall approach of the community as a whole that I believe needs to change somewhat to cater for such incidents.

DG, UK
==

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