This is a shortened statement from Robert Morningstar, joint editor of UFODigest and respected researcher. This is his second formal defence of the Naval Officers case: 
 
"I know Commander Theilmann very well. We are friends, and I vouch that he is a bona fide US Navy Reserve Officer who has served in uniform since 1968, despite what the "UFO Rat Pack" currently harassing CDR. Theilmann may care to believe. Their concerted assault is shameful and replete with slander, libel, calumny, aspersions on his character, false logic, wrong inferences and innuendo. I last saw the good commander on May 28th when we attended a reception for the USN Fleet Commanders in New York City. I attended as Lt. Commander Theilmann's guest and we had a great time."

Update: see this thread @ Open Minds Forum 
http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/ index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=unit ednations&thread=7855&post=25444 9

Smells of some degree of Psi-Op to me. Clay and Shawn are not disinformation artists.

Have you seen the latest news on the source A guy?? 
 
Some people have found a facebook page for him or something and he's not what he seems. Just wanted some comments from the two Pickering guys on this - maybe you can ask them for us. 
 
cheers, O/M/F

Clay and Shawn interview #2 due soon - following a re-issue of our amazing interview with Bradley Lockerman - director and creative drive behind the new DVD he John Searl Story. 
 
Watch this space and sign up for newsletters via regular membership. 
 
davID, UK Exo Initiative. 
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cheers for the signposts to the interview - am downloading now and will listen eagerly, though the bar was raised pretty high last time. 
 
thanks again 
 
j.*A*.g

Another rare audio interview has just been completed with Clay and Shawn.  
 
It's 3 hours long and contains many of the above interview's aspects but also some interesting updates. 
 
Visit ProjectCamelot.net and click on the audio section to download a copy. 
 
davID 
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Ye David.I agree with you.I try to drip feed through facebook and friends.I supose I see myself as a Lightworker and a helper anyway.I follow the website called \\\"Thewholetruthcoalition\\ \".this is a great websight for opening up peoples minds to the truth of this new world order etc.I know its hard as I have tried to explain about the banking system and how quantitive easing works,but many just cant work it out. 
May be the only wake up call is shock tactics.I dont really know.Personally I go by the fact that we and all ET life has an infinite spirit and that we are all connected on a quantum level of non-locality. 
This society has done much on programming the masses on fear.I tend to be as a channel for the light beings to use me and my group along with other healing groups to remove negativity from our planet and humanity.I just have to have a trust that things will work out even if it works out in a different way that we may expect.

Yes Robert - me too... 
 
However it's more about what we do between NOW and THEN to get us all prepared and to prevent numerous suicides and breakdowns [personal psyche wise AND instituitions] so we end up with nothing muc left to construct due to the sheer panic that may be induced. 
 
The long ppl FAIL to ACKNOWLEDGE this as a REAL phenomenon - the more most people will be screwed up when it arrives. 
 
See the lecture by CMN exclusively granted duplication for Exopolitics UK. He liked what we had done so much that we are the only site that is allowed to use it. It is in the media secion featuring Stephen Bassett who covers the failyure of ending the truth embargo and what this means as we head towards destruction or some sort of NW0 take over bid. 
 
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very interesting,I cant wait!!

Chance meetings. During my project one or twice a development or line of though/investigation was started by a chance remark by someone who I knew, or so I thought. It transpired that on each occasion, as I was to find out, the person or persons I thought I had been speaking to, refuted this. They could not recall any such conversation with me, especially upon a subject in which they had no opinion or indeed interest...So who had I been speaking with?

yes this is interesting

Updated comment # 2 
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As we have said before, history has had many examples where back-channeling made things possible. Robert Kennedy meeting in a bar with someone who had Kruschev's ear during the October missile crisis. 
 
Clay/Shawn, Aug 2009 
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Admin note: I've added this partial post from a forum to clarify the 2017 date discussion and use of UN as a medium as I think it's important. Too many people are becoming hooked into a discussion on whether the UN is "good" or "bad" as an appropriate meeting place for this issue when I do not believe this is a useful are to spend time on.  
davID, uk

UPDATED COMMENT - August 2009 
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2017 is not set as a disclosure date. It is the contact date as told by our source. This has not changed. If it does, we will tell you guys immediately. Moreover, disclosure is a human process. It is not up to ET. Disclosure could happen tomorrow, next week, next year, and God forbid up until 2017. 
 
Also, the purpose of the UN meetings (primary) was to create exactly the enviornment of G8 input (secondary) that Steven Greer alleges. The UN meetings purpose was to create a blue-print for the bureaucratic tiers to bring about a working model for disclosure. And yes, it was and still is a covert operation. It is important to understand what the UN offers. The UN is a venue. It offers those a cover who wish to broach sensitive topics that cannot be discussed without causing a hubbub. It also offers a venue where people can be at a place and get paid for it.

When I compiled the Time Chart The close of this age" , the "Countdown" to "the close of this age", stood at 24 years. When msn closed down it's groups net work, the countdown was down to months not years. You may understand my disappointment, for I had only ever wanted to reach point zero and get the judgement on my project. Now, as then, this remains the case, only now the countdown stands at weeks not months, just short of seven to be exact.  
 
When I found this forum I reckoned "the word "Exopolitics" just about summed it up, cos it is the same conclusion I came to many many years ago. . 
 
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I'm interested in what specifics you have that have the Et element at the core of it? Dav # 22 
 
Basically, the Bible and other ancient scriptures. (See my blog http://peakman.wordpress.com/ ) There is no God, as in deity. However the information recorded for us in the above mention books/scriptures is too definite, enigmatic possibly but also very definite.  
 
I have a "Time chart" hung here in my den, dated November 1985, which I compiled in other to put together all the accumulated bits and pieces I found myself in possession of and maybe just maybe, a picture would begin to appear.that made some kind of scenes. I do not know if I can upload a pic of it on to this site. Can I? Suffice to say that with out it you would not begin to see what appeared to me back then in '85. 
 
I know I can send it as an attachment to an e-mail . But there again you would need both the word document and the chart. However if you or anyone else makes an e-mail request, I will send them

hi - well the latter half of 2009 IS looking hectic I think... it's just the extent to which your omega point date fits with this I guess.... 
 
I'm interested in what specifics you have that have the Et element at the core of it? 
 
I do agree that population reduction is an issue far more central to everything [terrestrial power wise and ET wise] than most ppl are allowing for. I have written a couple of articles on just this area... so have Clay and Shawn who were interviewed here. 
 
Cheers, 
davID

Made a right "pigs ear" of posts 20 and 21. Post 21 should end,"(Matthew 25:31 to 46?) A better world perhaps?

Re post 
 
DavID. I probably am the guy. Alfa/Omega, the beginning and the end, just a term I use in this context. (Close of the age) Twenty years and more ago, I was (boring) folk with my "discovery" that this point was AD 2009 (autumnal equinox) The problem was, I was unable to say what, if anything would occur at that time. I was trying to stimulate discussion among mainly "Christians" with negative results.  
 
Now we are almost at my above mentioned date, the autumnal equinox of 2009, therefore we stall by able to see what, if anything has been set to occur. (I say,"set", for I believe that what I am looking at is an alien plan.  
 
As I do believe what I have been studying is alien, I have tried looking at it from the alien point of view. My conclusion is, that for this alien plan to be completed, there has to be a big reduction in the human population of this planet to be much reduced, (Matthew 25:31 to 46?) A b

Hey Peakman.... you are on Open Minds forum?? Or am I confusing your nick with someone else? 
 
I don't really agree that alpha has to be used in this term and context. Terence McKenna called it THE OMEGA POINT OF TRANSCENDENCE - and Teilhard De Chardin also referred to the eschatological end point as the omega point. 
 
All semantics at the END of the day :D 
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Well actually it should be "The Alfa/Omega point". The point at which the cycle of the Great cycle of time ends and the next one begins. According to my own investigation this point in time is AD 2009/10. Or to use the precession of the equinox and the Zodiac, the cusp of this age and that of Aquarius . 
Sounds very "New age". Well maybe it is but I am no "New-ager", just a gut who stumbled upon something way back and one thing just led to another. 
 
The result was a word document entitled "Countdown to Aquarius" and/or "It's about time". It concerns the possibility of an (alien) plan, one that concerns the human race. 
 
Please, if you are at all interested go to my own blog http://peakman.wordpress.com/ which I have compiled as a summary of the above. Comments there or here welcome....Thank you

How does Nick Pope saying that there is nothing going on in the UK with regards the govt and military fit into this idea of the UK being involved in the decision making?  
 
It suggests one or two things if you think about it!

Thanks for recording that - I was sent here from a forum topic where this was mentioned and enjoyed it. 
 
I would like to talk to these two regarding some information I have which links in to the 'show-up over certain cities. Something I was told several years back links in to this and I wanted to know just how long they have known this may be a possible situation. 
 
I will send anyone my email on request. 
 
thanks. 
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Errrmm... thanks but that doesn't really blend too well with the topic at hand.

Paul left a comment at Nothin' Sez Somethin' re. my Ballard post. Just stopping by to say hallo. Paul said, "All the authors I love are dead" How about any of these: 
* Forrest Aguirre 
* Steve Aylett 
* Steve Beard 
* Tom Bradley 
* Kevin L. Donihe 
* Andre Duza 
* Efrem Emerson 
* Chris Genoa 
* Eckhard Gerdes 
* Andrew Goldfarb 
* Mykle Hansen 
* Jeremy Robert Johnson 
* Harold Jaffe 
* GX Jupitter-Larsen 
* John Edward Lawson 
* Carlton Mellick III 
* Andersen Prunty 
* Gina Ranalli 
* Tony Rauch 
* Vincent Sakowski 
* Jeremy C. Shipp 
* Kenji Siratori 
* Alyssa Sturgill 
* D. Harlan Wilson 
My reading list is nearly a replica of Paul's. Might try some of these. 
They are classified (read labeled) as bizarro fiction. I've read Steve Aylett & Jeremy Robert Johnson with much enjoyment, some others are simply, well, bizarre. Haven't read all.  
Thanks again for the ki

Thanks for the feedback - appreciated. 
 
Clay and Shawn have said we can do another in a few months - also remarking that this was one of the best interviews they've done to date for getting the points over in a relatively short time period. 
 
Meantime check out the audio session with John Searl DVD producer Bradley Lockerman that was really interesting [British anti-gravity!] and a follow-up with Nick Pope and George L from Alien Mind. 
 
davID 
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fascinating interview! 
 
you are right, dave, you do need to listen a few times to get all the info. 
especially interesting was the silicon-carbon conformers. 
if into your cereology this article: http://amo.net/Contact/ will prove synchronistically intriguing re the chilbolton message/reply.  
 
the conformers sounding metallic and projecting forms, being a crystaline/silicon-carbon entitiy immediately resonates here, though admittedly via the lens of the entheogenic/gian-mind experience. 
 
hyperspace is where it's at and it's quite interesting to see just how many visionary motifs gleaned from the aliendatastream matches these reported meetings with non-human entities, as well as the dimensionality interpretation, as paul so sucinctly put it in the interview. 
 
i liked the way you both appraoched this subject matter and wove the wider reality potential into the flow, rather pursuing the more conventional interpretations.  
 
bravo! 
(when's the follow-up coming?)

I suppose everyone draws their own reality-line on this area.... 
 
Thing is - we really don't have a clue about just what types of entity we're dealing with and what form they appear in to us. Part of the talk went into this idea of 'projected' images - this notion of an interaction with the consciousness of the beholder is a common thread in such encounters. 
 
In addition this area *is* HIGHLY strange - how could it be anything but? Thus expect to drop all expectation is a good rule of thumb :) 
 
davID

Really went with this until one of your guests began talking about the alien who had bendy appendages...! Up to that point I was engrossed in what of course could be a real, impending situation. 
 
I think thought hat even if their source did meet this silicon based entity - they should have not mentioned this element.

To anyone who is just arriving here and reading this - it's really worth listening to a few times to this one if you are totally new to what they are saying or you just know a kind of background.  
 
Really useful that the issue looked a wider ramifications of this sort of disclosure because in this scene we're guided to of course think of disclosure as just an announcement NOT the complex array of events that would most porbably take place if ships appeared or ETs interfaced with culture in some other way.

Well I found that either wholly unbelievable or wholly disturbing - I can't make my mind up which. The fact is though that should this be based on fact then I guess we will see signs about just that as the whole point is to educate the public en mass. 
 
You cannot educate a public in SUBTLE ways in the time left so I would suggest this: if we begin to see really obvious attempts in the media and govts around the world to let people knnow this is sort of event may occur then we can conclude that whjat these two people here are saying - happened. Thanks for recording it - either way.

I've just downloaded a version to listen to when I have more time but having streamed the first few minutes I was hoping someone would reveal to me what the opening music is....? Definitely heard it before.

Fixed. 
 
Having scanned it I found 2 drops in audio for a few seconds but the others are gone. Will fix these and sort downloadable versions next time. 
 
--> I've now heard this numerous times [not always by choice!] but I still hear something new each time as you do with other interviews when there are interesting guests. So worth a second listen I'd say. 
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Hi - you can always email via the form on the contact page... also I've blanked out you email - I wouldn't leave it on a webpage as they get grabbed by naughty bot agents. 
 
As soon as the note goes it's done. Read the articles or find the other media [video and audio] links on the same theme if you have time to kill :) 
 
I'm not giving a time as I have other commitments. Suffice to say i'm about to upload a replacement but given the issues of the last few days i'm not tempting fate either. 
 
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The flash loading logo is there for the in stream player but it does not load full at the moment. It's 11.33pm. Anychance of finding out when it will be live again?

Glad you found it interesting. As far as the UN goes I guess this is more informal and also the diplomats or whoever attended the meeting on the nations behalf apparently had a fair amount of pressure not to speak about their role. 
 
Also Richard Hoagland and NASA astronaut Gordon Cooper have addressed the UN on these issues... Hoagland less on the ET issue. On top of that there are some UN charters about this issue - one of which was mentioned by Alfred Webre on CNN at the National Press Club. 
 
The glitch you found was one of several I found so you were lucky. I don't do this full time but repaired one should be up asap - plus I've added a note about it.

- sorry - i meant to also say that you have a small glitch at just passed the one hour mark but remainder is good quality for long phone call standards.

hi, some really interesting points which -given i hadn't been aware of this even existing before - made me go hunt around for background to the situation.  
 
If you look hard enough there are some ET items that the UN has dealt with before but I do not know at what sort of level and impact. Really don't you think we should have heard about these things given it is meant to be a world body deciding for us all?