Leah Haley was subject to what she thinks were both genuine and military abduction events. Adam mentions his interview with Mauri who claims she was part of an early Nazi program.

Colonel John Alexander pictured with Gordon Novel [Watergate] and Alexander's wife Victoria. Was Alexander in charge of staged MILAB abductions? Haley recalls seeing him during one experience - the abductees gave him the name 'Bulldog' due to his gruff manner with them and other military staff during these incidents.

Adam has a long term interest in the early contactee movement. Frank Stranges wrote "Stranger at the Pentagon" but is an intriguing persona himself... Adam dug up these archived rarities for us:

Frank Stranges - Flying Saucers Part 1 - Rare as frack!

Frank Stranges - Flying Saucers Part 2

...and it's the shamanic or psychedelic space that fits so well with the concept of the "UFO" and concept of the word "alien". You won't, for example, find a shaman from the Amazonian Basin returning from 'contact session' on ayhuasca telling his tribe that his experience was "fake" just as much as he won't be caught suggesting it as "real".

A case I wanted to relate to this, for no other reason than it contains all the elements you could ever dream of in a surreal contact scenario, was the Swiss Billy Meier case. Whilst we didn't persue this direction in the end -  I hope you'll take the time to listen to Gorightly's not inconsiderable output and perhaps see what I was driving at. The psychedelic third way and Billy 'the BEAM' Meier will be discussed in more detail during an upcoming session.

During the show I mentioned that making the link between the UFO/ET phenomenon and psychedelics was still pretty taboo within mainstream communities. This is changing fast though - it can't do anything *but* adapt - and Nick Redfern is one of those who is willing to discuss the importance of this angle. Here are a few lines from an email he sent me in response to some brief points and questions I put to him:

I certainly do believe that psychedelics are an integral part of (A) understanding whatever it is that is at the heart of the genuine UFO puzzle; and (B) accessing their realm and interacting with them (I long ago gave up on the ETH as a point-of-origin for "them").
 
Chasing them on radar and with aircraft will never achieve anything except for generating more perplexing reports that will forever remain unresolved puzzles.
 
Altered states are the key to unlocking the door.
 
These beings are far more alien than we could ever imagine, and I don't believe that searching the stars for them will ever prove anything.
 
People such as Crowley, Jack Parsons and Strassman came closest, or have come closer than most, to (consciously or not) getting to the heart of the mystery than have any UFO researchers.
 
Ritual magic is a key element too to answering certain aspects of the UFO controversy. I have engaged in ritual magic for a veryy long time, and it often amazes and sometimes freaks people out when they learn this, as they imagine I'm a pure nuts-and-bolts/documents type researcher.
 
I was in the early to mid 90s, but much of that is long gone and discarded from my life when it comes to trying to resolve matters of a UFO nature.
 
I don't encourage such actions, however, as psychic backlash against the participant is a very real component of all the above, and not something that those of a weak nature are equipped to deal with.

  Swiss Vista :: FAKE NOT Fake FAKE NOT Fake FAKE NOT Fake ?

Here's one short video by the person mentioned in the discussion -  Randolph Winters. 

Billy Meier - Real One Armed PrankStar :: Check out the "Laser Gun" given to BEAM by his ET friends...

Looks like a toy model until you see images of the perfect oval hole it burned through a tree trunk.