New UK interview in depth: Omega-Point 2017 - Cosmic Trigger Podcast
This is a well-reasoned interview featuring Shawn and Clay Pickering who work with the New York based Disclosure Network. It contains cutting edge content and many 'hints' at what they learned from their source who attended a multi-agenda platform for public acclimation to the idea of a future UFO arrival. Other topics such as the use of directed energy weaponry on 9/11 is also discussed.
Seriously worth taking the time over. Link to article on Secret UN mettings - such as here. A good source for updates on the situation can be found at the OM Forum.
From Paula Gloria's "Down the Rabbit Hole" TV and Web Broadcasts.
----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn and Clay
To:
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM
Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN
Dear Michael,
This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM. We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008. Our source stated the following:
1) The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.
2) The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.
3) Security around the meeting was intense.
4) Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.
5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.
6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.
7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table." This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.
8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.
9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the
government/military/intelligence structure.
10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.
11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.
12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.
13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."
14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated," The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."
Clay and Shawn Pickering
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Anyone interested in the possible uses of D.E.W. type technology on September 11th 2001 may want to review what's put forward in this video:
Relics from the Dust
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10Comment at Friday, 03 April 2009 19:06by davID
Hi, I'm snowed under with web hosting errors [other sites] and a work backlog but the Pickering interview is due for going out on this sunday and then the podcast will go up a day or so after as usual.
Best to see this link for the background to this whole issue, it's better than this one here.
9"Interview" at Wednesday, 01 April 2009 19:31by AnonEMouse
When is the interview being put online then?
8"Admin" at Tuesday, 31 March 2009 18:15by davID
Re Martin's comment -
From what I recall this is the Morgan Reynolds discovery about the 'bath-tub' on which much of that area of NY is build to create foundations that prevent flooding from the Hudson [? hope i am right there] and Sea.
Thus if the top chunk had fallen as a whole and landed it would have caused cracks in the bath-tub defences and flooded Manhatten. This is what Shawn is referring to AFAIK.
What's interesting if you wtch footage of the towers coming down is that one of them does just this - the top tilts as a whole structural entity BUT amazingly then disappears into dust before it hits. What also made me think the DEW idea has merit it the footage of a HUGE beam remaining after the fall but then literally dustifying on camera. You can see that at Judy Wood's site.
davID
7"Losing New York??" at Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:39by Martin Oakley
Losing New York?? ----------------------
I've watched the first half hour of this and most of it is 9/11 related. I never got to the other material. However I would like someone to tell me what on earth they mean when they say "Manhatten would be lost" if the building fell down.
The building DID fall down [in what ever way - I agree it wasn't a conventional fall] but New York still stands....? I'm a bit lost.
6"ExoUK Admin" at Monday, 30 March 2009 15:23by davID
That interview mentioned below went really well - I'm pleased they spared a few hours to talk to us. Listen to the show when it's out - it contains several gems.
Current show - interview with Adam Gorightly, broadcast Sunday - podcast this week.
Next show - Clay and Shawn Pickering on UN Meetings and Disclosure, broadcast sunday 5th, podcast available from that week.
Week after, Lawrence Spencer - "Alien interview".
Contact for more info.
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5"Recent Interview" at Monday, 30 March 2009 02:08by Shawn and Clay Pickering
Dear David & Paul,
Clay and I just want to let you folks and UK exopolitics know that we truly enjoyed the interview. It's a breath of fresh air to speak with people who are looking at this phenomena and other related matters in a 360 degree approach. We hope in the future to do another interview with UK exopolitics and delve a little further into how the "Black World" operates.
Again, thankyou David & Paul
Onward & All the Best,
Clay & Shawn Pickering
4"none" at Tuesday, 17 March 2009 02:10by Tom MArtins
The whole thermate thing was a side line diversion with re to the WTC "demolition". They are right when they talk about IMPLOSION though - although i'd suggest DUSTIFIED was a more apt term.
Visit : total411.org for more on the 9/11 myth and reality.
3"Interview Scheduled" at Sunday, 15 March 2009 14:36by davID@Exouk
**** Interview Session Arranged with Clay and Shawn Pickering ******
Check the Sunday slot or wait for the podcast.
2Comment at Sunday, 08 March 2009 00:48by davID
Hi there - To my knowledge neither brother has worked in those areas [or maybe they can't say!] but to me this doesn't mean anything. In fact the less tied to such structures people are sometimes means they attract and are trusted by people who are - as in the UN meetings case.
Note: I am due to talk to one or both of them soon all being well. DG, Exopol UK -
1"These people" at Friday, 06 March 2009 23:19by Martin Oakley
What's not clear from this interview is if these two people have worked in covert projects or not. They speak as if they have done but then the video nor this page actually give any credentials?
Not that I am moaning - thanks for posting this - it has some great thinking points - albeit far out ones.
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