Exopolitics UK -  Contact and Experiencers : Kim Carlsberg - January, 2011 Article Source -  Conscious Media Network -  www.CMN.tv Kim Carlsberg spoke at the 2011 Leeds Exopolitics Event and has a new book out of collected images drawn by experiencers: www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Close-Encounters-Kim-Carlsberg/dp/0984495533 Regina Meredith: There’s no issue more vulnerable to the giggle factor than that of alien abduction, which is why I’ve waited until this time to present it. When I first came in contact with Kim Carlsberg, I felt an authenticity coming from her regarding her experience with eight years of abduction by the Grays. For those who haven’t resonated with the subject until now, I ask you to keep an open mind while watching this conversation.

Kim Carlsberg: Exactly.

Regina Meredith: And illustrated so beautifully. It’s like the most intriguing coffee table book I’ve ever seen. (laughing)

Kim Carlsberg: The cosmic coffee table book, yeah.

Regina Meredith: Exactly, exactly. It’s called, The Art of Close Encounters, and we were talking off camera, and I think that’s a really important distinction to make because there’s the whole abduction phenomena and there’s a chapter on that. And then there’s the close encounter phenomena, which can be any range of things. But let’s go to your own experience and when this whole subject first came into your awareness.

Kim Carlsberg: Sure. I was working in Hollywood as a photographer. I was the first woman photographer in the Cameraman’s Union. So, now called the Cameraperson’s Union, or the Camera Union, but I had been living with my boyfriend on the Beach in Malibu. And there’s this beautiful, old—we called it the Pink Castle, this historic building that is on the corner of Sunset Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway.

Regina Meredith: Yes.

Kim Carlsberg: And it has these three arched windows, beautiful Spanish windows that overlook the ocean. We had the bottom floor of this building. And, so, I came home one night and I was relaxing, because we had the bottom floor we literally lived in one room. So, I tried to be very quiet because Gregg always got up very early in the morning to work out. So, I came home and I pulled a chair up into the window and I put my feet in the window sill. And, I noticed a light on the horizon and it was too bright to be a star and it was too low to be a star and it was too far above the horizon to be a boat. And, I’ve looked at that ocean a million times.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: So, I’m sitting here going this is intriguing; what is this? And then within a matter of a second, boom! Boom! It goes from the South Bay, which would be Palos Verdes, where we are, to Point Dume, in the blink of an eye.

Regina Meredith: Hmmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And I realized that the way it moved, at that kind of speed, if I tried to wake up my boyfriend, by the time he got to the window it would have been gone.

Regina Meredith: So you could have a witness to validate this experience.

Kim Carlsberg: Yeah, to share it with. It was phenomenal.

Regina Meredith: Sure, yeah.

Kim Carlsberg: So, I say as if it responded to my thoughts, that I was looking at it, it took another (snap of her fingers) you know flash and it was right in front of my window! And it was about 50 feet in diameter. It was a white glowing orb. I say, I call it Moon Over Malibu. It looked like the Moon, with a little . . . the Moon in fog.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And, I had the sense that there were entities inside. I could almost see a silhouette of two entities, but it was very vague. So, I sat there staring at this thing, not knowing . . . I said in my book, if I was about to see, you know, God or the Devil, I had no idea what it was and what the experience was going to be, and the next thing I know this thing just shot away at a diagonal into the stars.
So, that was fine. I had my first sighting. Wasn’t sure what that was, you know. And a few weeks later I went to bed, as usual, and I woke up and I was not in my bed. I was in what I now believe was the inside of a craft.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And, I was completely conscious. I was naked. I was paralyzed. My nose was pressed against a cold metal door. To my left—all I could move were my eyes. So, I’m trying to do this where am I? What’s going on? And to my left was one of my very first boyfriends, and he was naked and paralyzed, and he was very unconscious. He looked completely dazed, and I knew that I was crowded by other bodies into this what seemed like an elevator. To the left of him, I knew there was another woman and I only knew it telepathically. It was my first experience with telepathy. I knew that she was a makeup artist. And at that point this door, this metal door that I thought was an elevator, opens up into a huge room with hundreds of tables that were a couple of feet off the floor.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And they were all occupied with unconscious human beings, and there were these little tiny white creatures running around—I believe probably hundreds of them, as well; they seemed to be everywhere; one would be at the head of one of the human beings doing something to the head; one would be doing something to the wrists. And, I thought that these people were dead and I was absolutely terrified, and I thought I was going to be next.
I had never heard of alien abduction. I had never heard of the Grays at that point. I was a latchkey kid. I worked my way through eight years of college. I didn’t watch TV and movies, and so . . .

Regina Meredith: You weren’t prone to fantasy.

Kim Carlsberg: Right. So, in ’88 this was not common knowledge like it is now.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: Everyone knows what a Gray is, now, but at the time I coined them the Pillsbury—Anorexic Pillsbury Dough Boys. So, that was my . . .

Regina Meredith: (laughing) Yeah. Tiny and pale, big heads.

Kim Carlsberg: Yes. So, at that point I was terrified. I started screaming, and there were two taller Grays standing to my right. One came up and slapped me on the back of the neck, and the other one stood right in front of my face just waiting for me to go unconscious. And the slap on the back of the neck was exactly like I’d been given anesthesia, because I’ve had operations before and I know that feeling.

Regina Meredith: Yeah, mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And that drugged feeling came over me and I knew I was completely helpless, and I really thought that that was going to be my death. I became conscious later on in another small room that was dim. I saw no lighting. I was on a metal table, sitting there by myself. There was an anorexic Pillsbury Doughboy sitting to my left, and there was an arched window—excuse me—an arched door. When I looked through the door, it was a very brightly lit room; it was, but I couldn’t see any detail. And at that point a being walked into the arched doorway and stood there, and she was backlit, and her hair was very patchy. It was blonde and patchy and about shoulder length. And at that point I thought this woman is undergoing radiation treatment for cancer, because that’s what it looked like, the patchy hair.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And, I realized it was a female, and I started, you know, screaming out to her, again. I said, “Can’t you . . .” I said, “What’s going on??? Can’t you see how terrified I am??? You’re a woman; can you help me?” And she just, she stood there with this blank face, although she did have human features, huge eyes. She was a hybrid.

Regina Meredith: Right. I was getting that.

Kim Carlsberg: Now we know that she was a hybrid.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And telepathically she said to me, “Why don’t you stop being such a big baby and this will be over with soon enough,” and that shocked me out of my hysteria. I don’t know if it was her plan, but it did, and I said, “OK. What does that mean?” And the next thing I know I’m back in my bed. My boyfriend is still in the exact same position he was in when I went to bed. It was starting to get light and I knew that he would be up to go work out at any moment, and so I just laid there pretending to be asleep because I didn’t know how to explain what had happened.

Regina Meredith: How much time had elapsed do you think?

Kim Carlsberg: Probably a few hours.

Regina Meredith: A few hours, OK. And, for you, I mean some people with really lucid dreams, they would question themselves and say was that just a dream? What were your thoughts after this? Did you have these kinds of questions?

Kim Carlsberg: Sure I did. What else could it be? It was a nightmare; it was a horrible, lucid nightmare!

Regina Meredith: Yeah.

Kim Carlsberg: So, at that point I was working on a video with—I always get this wrong– ?(9:39) McCall, from Dallas, and I had been working with the producer for three or four days into this shoot, and he was from Kansas City, where I was from.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: So, we became, you know, fast friends. And, I just had to continue life, and I say at that point it was like another me showed up to live my life, because I was in absolute shock, but I still went about my days. I did what had to be done, but the world, the universe that I knew was gone and I was like an alien in this universe with what had happened to me. And, so, I went to work that day and my friend Gary walked up to me and said, “What happened to you?” And, I said, “What do you mean?” He said, “Kimberly, because you look terrible!” I said, “I’m sorry.” I said what happened, “I just had a bad nightmare last night!” And he said, “Well, come one,” he goes, “let’s go over to the corner of the set. I have plenty of time for you; if you need me, let’s talk about it because dreams mean things and maybe we can find out what this nightmare meant.” And when I explained it to him, his eyes were just huge and his mouth dropped and he said, “Kimberly,” he goes, “that wasn’t a nightmare.” He goes, “That’s called Alien Abduction.”

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And, I said, “What are you talking about?” And he said, “Well, I know about this because it happened to my roommate.” and he said, “So, what we’re going to do is you just relax today. We’re going to cut down the shoot early, and I’ll take you to the Boti Tree bookstore in L.A., and I’m going to get you a couple of books, and you can study and find out what happened to you.”

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: So, that’s what we did and that was the beginning of eight years of constant contact, of which I kept diary entries that eventually became my first book, Beyond My Wildest Dreams.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm, and what was the nature, over the eight years, if you can encapsulate the general nature of the experiences; number one, and number two, was it always the same? The kind of beings that were—you were in contact with, or did they change over time? Just give us a little idea of what happened over those eight years.

Kim Carlsberg: Yeah. Um, the first year I lived in absolute terror because I had no idea what was going on, and every experience was different. It was typically the Grays. My first experience I saw light beings that were about nine feet tall, waterfalls of light that were standing next to the two taller Grays. I had a very intimate relationship with a Praying Mantis being that I absolutely despised.

Regina Meredith: Yeah.

Kim Carlsberg: He seemed to be the one with the most power and dominance.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: I had an experience with a Gray; I call him the big-nosed Gray, and that was a very loving experience. So, what happened—and there are many more entities that I was involved with over the years. The first few years were terrifying, and I’d always been a meditator and I always had a little bit of extra ESP and, you know, a little extra power and I don’t know where it came from. I suspect, probably, from my earlier contacts with them. But, I had the feeling that I could make the experiences stop, but I didn’t want them to stop because I wanted to understand everything I could about the phenomena first.

Regina Meredith: Now, this is not an uncommon feeling, is it? Where, on one hand—I’ve read this from other people who have been through this—where, on one hand, they’re frightened, but on another it’s so intriguing and essential to who they are, now, that they can’t—they don’t want to stop it.

Kim Carlsberg: Sure. You can’t live a normal life knowing you have this, you know, secret life.

Regina Meredith: Right.

Kim Carlsberg: And not wonder every moment that you’re in the world what is this world? What is this universe? And now that I know that this is happening, I just want to know more; I want to know more, and it was worth the pain.
So, I, after a couple years I had a real good idea what they were doing with me. It had to do with the hybridization process.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: They were using my DNA and creating these hybrid children, and I would be
implanted . . . This is always the tough part to talk about. You know I have to say the truth and the truth is I would be abducted and I would be implanted with an alien fetus, and it would stay—I don’t know how long it would stay in my body, but I was a vegan vegetarian for 25 years. So, you know, athletes, females, stop their cycles when they are that thin and they’re athletic.

Regina Meredith: Right.

Kim Carlsberg: So, I never paid attention to my cycles because I didn’t have them.

Regina Meredith: Right.

Kim Carlsberg: And, so, people would always ask me, “Well, how long was it in your body? Didn’t you notice that you weren’t having your cycle?” No, it just wasn’t part of it.

Regina Meredith: Yeah, it’s not like you balloon up over nine months, or anything. It wasn’t that same kind of experience, I assume.

Kim Carlsberg: Yeah, yeah, right, nothing like that. And because the aliens are so tiny and the fetuses are so tiny, and they leave it in for such a short time, most people don’t know that it’s happening.
So, I would be brought back on the ship and I would be asked to breastfeed these tiny, tiny little babies, and I’d say, “You don’t understand; I can’t do that.” And they’d say, “No, you don’t understand; you can.” So, it was all very ambiguous. They would bring me into these rooms; there was a room with tiny little baskets with tiny babies, and I’d be taken into chambers with tanks of water with babies floating in the water, and older babies that weren’t born, yet. And then they would be born and then I would be introduced to toddlers.

Regina Meredith: Were they all hybrids?

Kim Carlsberg: They were all hybrids, yes.

Regina Meredith: Did they have human characteristics?

Kim Carlsberg: They were more human than they were alien, absolutely, yes. And my–the child that I have the strongest bond with, I write about her in both of my books. Her name is April, and the last time that I saw her she was about 13. She was an absolute clone of me, other than she was thinner and had paler skin.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And her intellect was far, far superior than mine, and I always thought she must be embarrassed that I am her mother because she’s so smart. (laughing together) I’m so ignorant compared to the Grays and her intelligence. But, she has a beautiful intellect, beautiful emotion sensitivity—an amazing being! So, with all the pain that I went through, it’s . . . People always ask me, “Was it negative? Was it positive?” You know I always say that I wish that it hadn’t happened because it did destroy my personal life and everything that I had worked for. It changed my life completely.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And it was very, very painful, but when I see the product of what they’ve done, it’s amazing. And, so, maybe the ends justify the means.
Regina Meredith: Well, let me ask you about that. When you say “painful,” OK, let’s say, in a pretend world, let’s say that it had not been terrifying, number one. Let’s say that the fear hadn’t been involved. What about the rest of it? Was it physically painful, the things that you were put through, for the most part?

Kim Carlsberg: Yes, extremely physically painful. I’ve had female problems my whole life, terrible female problems, and I’ve been to doctor after doctor, and no one could figure out what was going on.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: And, I’m sure that it had to do with being implanted. I have several experiences, one I wrote about in my book, that just proves it. So—and the pain of having children that you can’t see, that you love . . .

Regina Meredith: Did you feel a natural bond?
Kim Carlsberg: Absolutely. You know it’s interesting because my conscious experiences didn’t start until ’88, and so I know that I’d had an ongoing relationship with these children, especially April, because it was so painful the last time I saw her, that I couldn’t be with her that I just was dying inside; my heart was breaking. And she’s so telepathic and so intuitive that she was catching onto that, and I was trying not to cry. I was trying not to—I was trying to mask my thoughts because they’re telepathic, and I’m it’s so good to see you; it’s so wonderful to see you. In the back of mind I’m going and I’m dying because I can’t have you in my life and I can’t protect you and take care of you, and I don’t know what you’re life is going to be like in this ?(18:20) environment. And, she got scared, and this telepathy going back and forth between us was I could see, she’s 13; she’s vulnerable and she pictured her own future children and thought what if that happens to me? What if I have children and they’re taken from me? Will I feel the same kind of pain that you’re feeling? And, I tried to tell her telepathically, I said you know, “All the pain in the world—I’m going to choke up—all the pain in the world; it’s worth it to experience that kind of love.
Regina Meredith: And this was happening to the other women there, too, I take it, right? This is what that program you were involved with was about.
Kim Carlsberg: Yes, yes.
Regina Meredith: Why are they doing this? What are these hybrid beings being hybridized for?
Kim Carlsberg: I don’t know. They don’t tell me; they don’t talk to me, but they communicate. And when they communicate in what I call virtual reality experiences they—I will wake up and I will be in a scenario that is absolutely lifelike and I will have to live through some kind of event. And then at the end of this event, when they’ve gotten what they wanted out of me, or they’ve taught me what they wanted me to learn, the scenario just completely dissolves and I’ll be sitting in a room with some Gray aliens. So . . .
Regina Meredith: It’s like holographic reality.
Kim Carlsberg: Graphic reality?
Regina Meredith: Holographic—I mean you’re right there in the middle of it; it’s real to you.
Kim Carlsberg: Absolutely.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, I don’t know why they’re creating the children. All I can do is speculate, but most of my experiences—many, many of my experiences are about the Earth, and I have been quoted—it’s a long quote, but the last sentence is the one that stays with me, that “it is time to save Mother Earth from her inhabitants.” So, I don’t know what that means. You know, we can all speculate. Either we’re bad and we’re going to go away, and the hybrids might come here. Or, the hybrids might be integrating to help us higher our consciousness.
Regina Meredith: I’ve read about that, yes.
Kim Carlsberg: Or, you know, the Grays—this may be just what they do. They may seed planets because they’re definitely good at what they do. I’ve seen alien—I’ve seen hybrid children that were 90 percent human and 10 percent alien, and everything in between. I’ve seen every combination of race amongst those beings. So, they, they’re . . .
Regina Meredith: When you say, “every race amongst those beings,” are you talking about their various forms, or hybridized with us and our races, injected into their species.
Kim Carlsberg: Yes, all of our races combined with their DNA.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm. OK, so, one of the things you said a moment ago is they would teach you things and show you things. What were some of the more profound things you learned with them, or you saw in these holographic realities created for you?
Kim Carlsberg: Sure. Um, this one, in particular, wasn’t really a holographic experience, but this was the most profound thing that I took away. I was—I had just had surgery for my female problems, and I was in bed for a few days.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, they were around a lot. I had a female being come visit me a lot during that time, and she had huge eyes. I thought they were a foot in diameter; they were so big and she had a scarf that, you know, she had wrapped around the bottom of her face so that all I could see were her eyes.
Regina Meredith: Was she like the rest of them?
Kim Carlsberg: She was not like the rest of them. She was, she was—I would say she was more like a hybrid, but a more perfected and more evolved hybrid, and she had a scarf around her face, so I couldn’t see her hair. She just wanted me to see the eyes, and that’s how they usually connect. So, she got right in front of my face and she said, “You are us,” and at that moment I felt myself to be one with her, one with the Grays, one with the universe, one with God, one with everything. So, they gave me the ultimate spiritual experience of my life. So, it’s, you know, the yin and yang of the encounter experience.
Regina Meredith: Hmmm.
Kim Carlsberg: They taught me many spiritual lessons.
Regina Meredith: Can you share a couple?
Kim Carlsberg: Sure. Let’s see. OK, this is a good one. I was taken to a place a couple times that I believe was another planet. It was an orange, dry desert-type planet. And there were three male pilots, piloting three triangular craft, and they were showing me how they cloak themselves. So, one of the craft came forward—I was all alone, and this craft came forward and it shot a white fabric out in front of it that looked like parachute material. And, I thought oh, they’re going to float down, or something. But this parachute material enveloped the craft and turned soft and it looked like a cloud. So, I understood that they were showing me how they cloak themselves.
Regina Meredith: Interesting.
Kim Carlsberg: So, there’s—you know I have to explain that a lot of these experiences are not linear the way we experience Time. In my experience, I will have an abduction or a contact and it will have all the complete components of an experience, but they’re not exactly linear; they break up, but they all make sense at the end.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, in this experience the craft went away. I looked off to my—to the side, and these three pilots were now on the ground walking towards me. And, I looked at one and I knew him, but I didn’t know how. It was an absolute knowing and he was in his 30s, good looking, you know, Nordic type guy and he had this sweet energy about him, like I know you know me. You know we know each other.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: And, I thought OK, why don’t I have the memories? You know, so, the next thing I know a bulldozer shows up, this big bulldozer with this big round thing on the front. I guess it reminds me of something that you would lay tarmac out with.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, this comes up from the left and these three pilots walk over in front of this bulldozer and they lie down in front of it, and the bulldozer goes over them. And, I’m absolutely terrified, horrified, couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I said, “This is horrific!” And, I’m at the height of this emotion and the bulldozer moves on away and there’s nothing left but these little like plastic or glass shards on the dirt, and I walked over and I picked one up and as I did a voice said to me, “This is to show you that the body is only a shell,” and then it disappeared in my hand.
Regina Meredith: Wow!
Kim Carlsberg: So, that’s how they communicate.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yeah.
Kim Carlsberg: They would never just tell me something like that. I had to live it.
Regina Meredith: Right. You had to live it, which of course, is how we all learn best. So, it was an intelligent way to teach.
Kim Carlsberg: Right.
Regina Meredith: Well, the book that you’ve written, this new one that’s just coming out, in fact, it’s on the docks as we speak.
Kim Carlsberg: Yes. I’m here to pick it up.
Regina Meredith: You’re here to pick it up, The Art of Close Encounters. You show many different kinds of beings. Now, how did this project come out of your experiences?
Kim Carlsberg: I’m a photographer and I’m visual. My first book was my diary entries and I had a good friend of mine illustrate most of them. I illustrated some of them. So, at the end of that book I put out an invitation for people who had experiences, who had art that they would like to contribute, I wanted to do a compilation of other people’s experiences and art. Well, that was 15 years ago, and I received enough for a chapter, but not for a book.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: And at that time I was having a very difficult time in my life personally because of coming forward. And one day I had been on so many television shows and radio shows and on and on, and I was talking, talking, talking and I never took a dime for anything; I just wanted to get the information out, and I got to the point where I couldn’t talk anymore, and that’s when I decided to write my book. I said I’m going to write my book; I’m going to give it to the world, and I’m going to go away and try to retrieve my life. So I did.
 So, I was gone for 15 years, and about a year and a half ago I went on Facebook as myself, as Kim Carlsberg, the photographer. And the first day I was busted. Here came Kim Carlsberg.
Regina Meredith: Everyone knew who you were.
Kim Carlsberg: Everyone knew who I was, and I started receiving all these beautiful, wonderful letters from people; emails and messages for the contribution I’ve made with my first book. So, I got sucked back in and I realized that I was at the perfect point to finish the book. I knew that I would finish it someday.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: Fifteen years later, here I am on Facebook and I have a whole beautiful community of contactees at my fingertips. And I said, “You guys, if you have any art, if you have a story, now is the time for me to finish The Art of Close Encounters.
Regina Meredith: There’s some amazing artwork in here.
Kim Carlsberg: Yeah. And, I was saying that I needed to wait 15 years to have this book be as powerful as it is, because 15 years ago we didn’t have the software that we have now for creating artwork.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: And anyone with any artistic ability at all can go on and find software and put together a pretty good image. So, the images are phenomenal. I can say I love the book and it’s amazing and it’s beautiful because I didn’t do it.

Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.

Kim Carlsberg: You know it’s 150 individual stories of close encounters.
Regina Meredith: And not all of them are—it’s not all painful abductions. It’s close encounters, which is very different distinction.
Kim Carlsberg: No, not at all. Yes. This is not the art of abduction. This is the art of close encounters and it covers every type of close encounter that I could get my hands on. So, you have beautiful stories of people who were mentored from childhood. You have stories that—most of it is actually very positive and very powerful. I was asked the other night on a radio show, “Tell me the most terrifying story in the book?” And, I said, “You know, come to think of it, there really aren’t any terrifying stories in the book,” because in this day and age, 15 year later, there is so much information out there. People know what a Gray is. People know what abduction is, and if it’s happening to them, they can find out about it quickly and they can get the information they need and they can assimilate it.
Regina Meredith: So, what’s the most beautiful story in the book, instead of scary?
Kim Carlsberg: Oh, there’s so many!
Regina Meredith: Oh, maybe just one or two that pop to mind.
Kim Carlsberg: Oh, goodness. Tonia Madenford: I like this one because it involves children, and she has—very lighthearted. She’s a beautiful woman. She lives in Phoenix, and we talked on the phone for a couple of hours. I just loved her energy, and she didn’t want to come forward; she didn’t want to contribute, but after we talked for a while she goes, “Well,” I said, “Come on; we need to get this information out in the world, and you’ve had a great story.” And she says, “OK, well, let me see if I can get the artist to . . .” She had another artist illustrate her story.
Regina Meredith: Right.
Kim Carlsberg: And it’s called, “Rising,” Rising, I believe, and it’s a craft; it’s a blue craft, and it’s three little children and they’re reaching up into the blue light. And, she talks about how she was mentored as a child, and how they told her that the Earth was the most important planet because it seeded other planets. And, she said that she felt from a very young age, this—like I was told—we have to take care of Mother Earth.
Regina Meredith: This seems to be a common theme from everything I’ve read.
Kim Carlsberg: Yeah, a very common theme.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yes.
Kim Carlsberg: But it was great because she just talks about walking out into the field and all the kids getting together and waiting for the craft to come over, and it was so exciting when they would float up into the craft and be taken into these rooms. And she said sometimes they would be told what to do, and sometimes they were just free to draw and play and be in the craft and be dropped off. It’s not a very serious story, but . . .
Regina Meredith: No, but that’s sweet. And what did those beings look like? What kind of beings were those?
Kim Carlsberg: You know she did not describe the beings; she described her experience.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm. Her experience. OK, so the environment was there for the kids, it sounds like.
Kim Carlsberg: Right, right.
Regina Meredith: Huh. And what have you heard—I mean we’ve read about the different types of beings and experiences. The Grays seems to be very closely aligned with these kinds of programs you’re speaking of—DNA work, hybridization, and so forth.
Kim Carlsberg: Right.
Regina Meredith: What about the ones known as the “Nordics,” for example?
Kim Carlsberg: There are a lot of Nordics in the book. I believe—let’s see . . .
Regina Meredith: They’re the ones that tend to look more like you—human.
Kim Carlsberg: They’re humanoids; the blondes.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, right. The blondes.
Kim Carlsberg: The Pleiadians.
Regina Meredith: The beautiful, big blue eyes, yeah.
Kim Carlsberg: Sure. Sure. They’re all in the book.
Regina Meredith: Do those tend to be more positive stories that happen surrounding the Nordics, then your experience? Or, can you go by that?
Kim Carlsberg: I’ll go by that and I just want to make one point. People always say, “Is it positive or negative?” And I always have to say you cannot judge because we can’t use those words.
Regina Meredith: Maybe painful versus not painful.
Kim Carlsberg: Painful, yeah. Well, you know, if you’re being physically probed, that’s painful.
Regina Meredith: Right.
Kim Carlsberg: I don’t believe any of the Nordic stories are being about probing people.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: Although, there are stories where the Pleiadians have been seen with the Grays, and all the different species have been seen together, just about. It’s pretty incredible how they do know each other and hang out every once in a while. So, I don’t know what those relationships are in particular, but they are seen together a lot.
 I have—David W. Chase is in the beginning of the book. The first chapter of the book, I wanted it to be just the different species and then go into the different types of encounters, and he’s followed this for a long time, and he’s very—he’s an excellent artist. And, he has a being in the book that is a Gray alien; the body, the size of the head, the shape, the features, covered in gray scales, with reptilian, slanted, slit irises.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, there are some interesting entities in the book that I had not heard of because . . .
Regina Meredith: Because the reptilians have been getting a fair amount of play the last 20 years through the work of a number of people we know and have interviewed.
Kim Carlsberg: Sure, but I had never heard of a reptilian/Gray hybrid.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm. So, even within those species there are hybridized versions.
Kim Carlsberg: Yes.
Regina Meredith: Yeah. Well, and I think one—we’re at point in history where we’re, if not already there, certainly approaching the point where I think the human species is going to have to become comfortable with the fact that perhaps we are a hybridized species to begin with, a genetically engineered species.
Kim Carlsberg: Mmmhmm.
Regina Meredith: Even to the point where—I think about this now and then—that as you look at the various species, the various races, even, around the planet, you start seeing very specific characteristics of a lot of these ET species that have been caught in the artwork, and you have to wonder if were those people primarily influenced by the Pleiadians, or—yeah.
Kim Carlsberg: Absolutely! Yes. You know when I did this book I’d go into a restaurant and I’d start looking at people and I could see the ET ancestry, absolutely.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Kim Carlsberg: And, so, that’s a little side project of mine that I’m working on because once you know all of these different species and you know what they look like, you can observe them in us.
Regina Meredith: Yes.
Kim Carlsberg: So, I have—yeah, I have no problem with the idea that we were seeded here, manipulated.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: You know I always say that I think the hybrids are just the—when the Homosapien and the Neanderthal were here at the same time. I believe that the hybrids, if they do come here; it would be nothing more than that, another upgrade of the species.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: And, uh . . .
Regina Meredith: Yeah. I tend to agree with you on that. Yes. And it doesn’t take away from our sovereignty. Each one of us is a being with a soul, a true self that is integrated through this physical vehicle of all different types on this planet.
Kim Carlsberg: Yeah, right, right, right, mmmhmm.
Regina Meredith: There has to be some kind of psychological shift that allows humanity to feel comfortable with it before there will be any serious exploration, I think. And, hopefully, it’s not going to be trotted out more as a fear scenario.
Kim Carlsberg: No, and I think this book is—it’s going to cross the boundaries into mainstream because it is a coffee table book and it is unintimidating and it’s visual.
Regina Meredith: It is.
Kim Carlsberg: And everywhere I go I have to fight to get this book back. Here’s an interesting story. Yesterday the woman I’m staying with had a good friend stop by her house [that] she hadn’t seen in 20 years, but they were best friends their whole life. Excuse me. No, she had seen here, but maybe they had been friends for 20 years.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: And, Suzanne asked me to share the book, and I brought it out, and the woman opens up the page and she sees the Grays and the hybrid, and she goes, “Oh, those were the ones that took me when I was 14 and took my eggs.” And, Suzanne turned around and looked at me, and looked at her, and she said, “I’ve known you 20 years; you’re my best friend, and you’ve never told me this.” And I said, “See, it’s the context.” I said, “We’re all here together; it’s comfortable; there’s the book, you flip the page. “Oh, yeah, I saw that. I saw this.”
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Kim Carlsberg: So, it will be a tool for people to—who have had experiences—to share it with friends who are on the fence or family.
Regina Meredith: Yes.
Kim Carlsberg: And, it’s also great for anyone who’s had an experience, because they are going to find their experience in there, or something like it.
Regina Meredith: Yes, yes, yes. Well, um, thank you. I’m glad we were able to connect. But thank you so much for the work you’ve been doing and for being comfortable enough to start speaking about it, again, after all these years. You haven’t been doing media for a long time.
Kim Carlsberg: Right.
Regina Meredith: And, I feel very honored that you feel comfortable enough to talk with us about it.
Kim Carlsberg: You’ve made me feel very comfortable. Thank you.
Regina Meredith: Thank you.

Regina Meredith: Kim has two books out on the subject; the first being her own diary of her experiences, titled, Beyond My Wildest Dreams: Diary of a UFO Abductee, which you can find on Amazon and other major booksellers, and her newest book, The Art of Close Encounters, which you’ll need to buy through her website, www.theartofcloseencounters.com. I hope you can see this phenomena in a new light, as the implications are profound. Until next time, thanks for watching CMN.


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Thoughts on the New Human
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February 19, 2011

I was viewing some of the comments recently regarding the posting of a video of Mary Rodwell: The New Human, and I was moved to share some of my own thoughts.

I have a great deal of respect for Mary’s work as she has taken the time to deeply study the phenomenon of alien abduction – a sensitive subject. She was a nurse 30 years ago and is still surprised to find herself traveling the world speaking of aliens and abductions. She had to remove all filters and re-examine the nature of all of her beliefs to do this work. Her work has resulted in following 1600 case studies searching for evidence of an enhanced type of human being now being born among us that is global in nature.

On a similar note, I recently interviewed an abductee named Kim Carlsberg whom I was drawn to because of her directness and authenticity. I have deliberately taken my time on this issue until I felt really comfortable with the person’s story. During the interview she shared her experience of meeting with her hybrid daughter who was created during her 8 years of abductions. The ET abductors appeared to be very proud of how this girl had turned out. They went on to show her some of the less successful hybrids, telepathically telling her that this is a very painstaking undertaking with many failed experiments. Kim was in awe of the vast intelligence of the girl, who was a virtual clone of herself but paler and thinner. She was soothed by the fact that the girl had human emotions and love about her.

As she was revealing this I was seeing, from the other side of my brain, that she would be incarnating back through the descendants of this girl. Her bloodline’s DNA had been hybridized but would still allow her to incarnate back in with the “enhanced features” of an advanced culture mixed with human DNA. I had no judgement about this as I believe we are already a hybridized species. But it did open some new territory for consideration.

A few days ago I spoke with Darryl Anka, channeler of Bashar, due to the number of requests from CMN viewers to interview him. Since the subject of ETs and UFOs has been coming at us from every direction and the channeled entity, Bashar, is said to be an ET, I felt it appropriate to ask questions along that theme. One question was, “Are alien abductions done with or without consent of the abductee, including agreements made by the soul, which the personality would be unaware of?” Darryl answered that according to Bashar, there is generally an agreement between the two, that abuction is not done against the wishes of another soul. Many people would and have, argued with this point stating that a benevolent species would not cause trauma to another. A point well taken if we are viewing through human compassion and logic.

A couple of days ago I listened to Sheila Gillette, channeler of the Theo Group, speak about ETs and UFOs on their ‘Ask Theo Live’ radio program (www.asktheo.com). I was to have been the guest interviewer that day but had a bad flu bug. When queried on the subject of alien abduction, Theo replied that this does not happen without one’s permission. They further explained that the most frightening aspect is the feeling of lack of control over the situation the abductee is in. When alien ‘cruelty’ is brought up, Theo explains that the Aliens who conduct these abductions do not have emotions such as what we humans understand. They feel they have a job to do and they do it efficiently from their point of view, which, Theo says, is never done to cause harm. This is little comfort to the humans undergoing such a shocking experience.

These same sentiments have been voiced by any number of people involved in this field. Even the late Dr. John Mack, head of the Clinical Psychology Department at Harvard, pointed to the fact that there was often a feeling of awe between the human and ET, a kind of peace and telepathy that passed between the two. Education as to earth’s future is often given and messages of the need for peace and environmental recovery are common themes reported by abuctees. Many come back with greatly expanded knowledge, psychic abilities and even new skill sets.

While interviewing Trisha McCannon, teacher of the Great Mysteries, last weekend, the subject came up again. Her belief is that the Grays are conducting these programs to help elevate their own species back up toward a human physical reality while retaining their knowledge. Their native planet had been destroyed through environmental degradation, she said, and they had lost their human traits and desired to become physically human-like again.

This was quite a bit to consider over a few days, though the information is not new to me. My thoughts are as follows:

The human species was never an organic evolution. Even Darwin questioned his own theories on evolution before his death. Far too many anomalies exist to look at such a direct and simple chain of events. Too many timelines are out of sequence on certain evolutionary developments of humans according to some of our other interviewees.

If we were engineered/hybridized to one extent or another at our inception, why would it not have continued and be currently in progress? Could it possibly be in the interest of some humans to have their DNA mixed with an alien DNA for some kind of evolutionary advancement in the future? A new kind of child is appearing on the earth today that is nothing like the preceeding generations. Where are those changes coming from? Will there be a need for a different kind of DNA and body to foster their growth?

It’s been said that the our soul has had, and will have, other experiences beyond what we understand as life on earth. Does it matter if we are in a hybridized vehicle through which to experience a given physical dimension? Though we are sovereign souls, does that necessarily mean that we have not made contracts with one another in the physical realm in which we choose to incarnate, agreements that may not be known to our conscious minds at this time?

More importantly, if ETs are here conducting hybridization experiments to improve their own lot, and let’s give the benevolent ones the benefit of the doubt that they are attempting to help us, what responsibilities do they have toward us? Until recently, has humanity given a second thought to the effects of our experimenting on, and even eating, other species of earth animals whom we deem to be less intelligent? Ask a lab chimp how they feel about the intentions and compassion of human kind.

It’s a very challenging moment to learn that our long held beliefs may be wrong or incomplete. I doubt any issue is more heavily loaded than the origins of the human species, on which I have a slightly different position, which I will be sharing in the future. Perhaps equally challenging is the notion that we are being experimented with right now, at least some of us. Even conceptually, the thought leaves us feeling violated and vulnerable, even powerless. Yet, we see little evidence of agressive alien behavior toward humans as depicted in the sci-fi films, books and websites. In fact, a sizeable number of people are waving their arms saying “Take me! Take me!” while UFO sightings and television programs devoted to the subject are growing in numbers. We’re deeply fascinated with our space brethren – as long as they don’t get too close.

Is this to say there are not forces that have indeed been interfering with humankind by taking advantage of our amnesia as to who we are? No. I believe we have many different types of visitors who are simultaneously watching, helping and, yes, interfering with earth life. And, I do not believe that assistance from ETs is the only way in which our species is advancing or will advance. Many are doing so through their own spiritual, physical and mental practices. As David Sereda recently said, if amoeba know when to adapt to changing influences, then humans can adapt too – it’s all about light.

When I spoke with Hank Wesselman about his new book, A Bowl of Light, which details his experience with his Kahuna teacher, he was told never to focus on fear scenarios surrounding ETs. Darryl Anka concurred when I spoke with him the previous day. Both said that much of what a person may end up experiencing has to do with their belief and their fields of resonance. Fear is completely non productive, especially if it’s regarding something we feel powerless to alter.

That said, most of us will never have any direct experience with ETs, at least not at this time in our history. But to imagine that our future will include some ‘upgrades’, some of which may come through co-operation with outside civilizations would be reasonable to consider in my opinion. Perhaps those who are being abducted are the very ones that will be incarnating back into the vehicles with advanced features more quickly due to the DNA compatibility. Perhaps those new features will help us survive earth’s future atmosphere through some difficult times. And, if we were to look at it, we’re not doing so well at the moment. Our species, and our earth, has never been more chronically sickly. Many other species have died out due to our lack of foresight in caring for our ecosystems. This isn’t taking into account any external atmospheric or cosmic influences, just our direct decisions and actions.

With an eye toward the future, last July a group of us were taken forward in time to view earth’s future. Barbara Marx Hubbard was in the group and she and I discussed our experience, which had similar overlays. What I saw was beautiful.

We had mastered the materialization of matter, lived in little domed homes that could be easily moved to place us closer to the foods, herbs, people and natural environment of our needs when desired. Our technology interfaced with our minds and intuition, allowing a sense of genuine connectivity between all people through plasma screens of some sort at the center of the home. There were no damaging radio frequencies pulsing through the atmosphere, which meant it felt clean and quiet. Food grew beautifully once again as we had re-established healthy soil. And we were working openly with other species to continue recovering and foster the health of our overwhelmingly beautiful planet.

I saw no divides, no killing, no disconnectedness from one person, plant, animal – or even visiting ETs – to another. And we still had our hearts, which lived in peace. If we can feel our hearts, we have connection with our soul. And, as a sovereign soul, WE command the journey.


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Kim Carlsberg spoke at the 2011 Leeds Exopolitics Event.