An Exo-political discussion with Whitley Strieber about "The Elephant Stampeding in the Living room"! By Paola Harris -  Exopolitics Italy - October 28th 2007 Paola Harris goes into detail with the author on why the issue of advanced cultures requires not only handling in a certain manner but needs urgent attention now. The longer we collectively remain in denial about the ET issue the harder and more chaotic it will be to integrate the massive culture clash that at this stage is squeezing us out of the conceptual living room. Exopolitics is attempting to address just this issue by default given the failure of contemporary knowledge structures to do so.

PH:     I ‘d like to discuss your journal entry of the elephant stampeding in
the living room, that I have on my web site. You are basically saying  we’re
not doing anything about this issue until the elephant is actually
stampeding in the living room. Until there’s an end to secrecy out there and
the truth emerges, we’re faced with this huge problem and then we have no
preparation, no protocols in place, no nothing.
 

WS:     Right, we have nothing, and there must be a vast amount of knowledge on the ground that is being ignored in the form of the witness experiences.
These are valuable because taken as a whole, if you were able to interview
these people extensively, examine them physically, the meaning of what’s
happening to them would be almost certain to emerge. If you were able to
study the imprint, the objective manner, there would be new knowledge found
there, and that’s just in the witnesses. If we made a serious effort to
analyze what UFOs actually are and where they’re seen, the weather and
atmospheric conditions, the electromagnetic conditions under which they’re
observed, we might be able to learn something objective about what they are,
and even, conceivably, where they’re from. The catastrophe of the secrecy is
probably one of the greatest of all human catastrophes because it’s
completely clear that whatever is causing the phenomenon, it is new
knowledge. It should not be rejected knowledge. It is rejected knowledge,
and I think that there are a number of reasons for that. First, there was a
mistake made early on when this was classified. I think it caused whoever’s
out there to kind of become complicit in the secrecy, in the sense that if
our government didn’t want us to know, then they wouldn’t tell us either,
because they figured that we knew better than they did as to whether or not
we should know.

PH:     Other countries are dealing with it in a different way, Whitley. Why?

WS:     I suspect, though I can’t prove this, that the way the United States
reacted to it initially by keeping it concealed from the public and probably
by acting in a hostile manner, caused a disaster. In other words, it
destroyed what would have been a very fruitful experience of contact.  They
reacted by being very secretive.

PH:     You mean the visitors.

WS:     Yes, the visitors. They’re very secretive. If they weren’t, we would
know a lot more. I tried everything under the sun to get some physical
evidence of them.

PH:     Do you think that would make a difference with people?

WS:     Sure!

PH:     People say, show me a piece of a UFO. I don’t think that would make any
difference. I think a lot of people would be upset by it, it would change
their whole paradigm and they’d rather just watch the game. Don’t bother me
with this, because then you disrupt my comfortable life, and everybody’s
comfortable in the United States especially. You’re giving people something
they can’t swallow, and they don’t want to know. We do, but that doesn’t
mean everybody does.

WS:     What troubles me about it is that the visitors are so secretive. I don’t
know whether it’s because we were so secretive and therefore they took that
as their cue, and thought that was what we wanted, or are they secretive
because we wouldn’t want what they’re doing and it would be very
inconvenient if we knew, because people would resist in a more organized
way? Right now, nobody resists. They come and go as they please. But if we
knew something we didn’t want, there might be neighborhood guards with
lights, there might be a real effort made to keep them away from us, and
that might make it much harder for them to do what they want to do. But I
don’t know the answer to that question, and nobody does. Maybe someone in
the government does. I just hope, I’ve never been hurt and I’ve followed up
many scary stories of people who’ve been hurt, and I could only find two
where there’s any evidence that anything terrible happened. One is the Todd
Sees (?) case, in White Mountain, PA a few years ago, where a couple of
people reported seeing a bright light coming down out of the sky and a man
going up into the light. They reported that at the National UFO Reporting
Center. Linda Howe and I picked it up and she was following up on it, and
this disappearance occurred. This man, Todd Sees, was reported missing. His
four-wheeler was found in a woods about a mile and a half from his house.
Dogs were brought in to track him and they couldn’t find any scent of him
except on the vehicle itself. This suggested to me that he went up into the
air. They could never track down the two farmers who had reported this so
they could find him. It is mysterious.
In my own case, this happened in my life for eleven years. They were coming
into our house, where our children were, and other people’s children,
routinely. The parents all knew it, we told them. We disclosed everything to
the other parents, of course. My son had children up to play with him. He
never felt threatened. I was scared to death, but I never saw – to the point
where I couldn’t come face to face with them on the occasions that I was
able to. And they finally – I never felt a sense of evil. I felt that they
were nice. They weren’t hard on me. They were very demanding, intellectually
and emotionally, yes.

PH:     That’s very interesting.

WS:     They abducted my wife and my family too. And no one was ever hurt.

PH:     Can I ask you why you use a metaphor, the Elephant Stampeding in the
Living Room?

WS:     Because the elephant is huge. There are millions of people who have seen
UFOs and who have had this experience of close encounter. But we act like it
doesn’t exist. We’re sitting here in the living room with this big elephant,
and we’re just ignoring it.

PH:     That brought it home so much. My new book, Exopolitics, is about
protocols and challenges for future contact that need to be done right now
and not when finally it’s obvious. There are nine protocols, one of which
has to do with the Varginha case, the military policeman who picked up one
of the little creatures and put him on his lap. He didn’t put any covering
down, and the next thing we hear is that this 24 year old guy is dead from
tumors. Something should have been done there. There should have been some
protocol for interacting with these beings.

WS:     When the visitors would show up at our house, you had to be really
careful with allergies. I couldn’t eat chocolate when they were coming. I
wasn’t allergic to it, but it was like a tripwire allergy. If I ate
chocolate covered strawberries, it would cause a big histamine rush because
I’m slightly allergic to strawberries. They didn’t want a situation where,
knowing that I was allergic to them, which I did not know of course, that I
was eating other things that were activating histamines. I went to an
allergist for about six months and he gave me little phials and I injected
myself, and the allergies became much better including the allergies to the
visitors. One day two or three years later, I was walking past his office in
Manhattan, and I thought, I’ll go up and see him and tell him what a good
job he did, because he really cured my allergies. They’d never heard of him
at the doctor’s office, didn’t know who he was at all.

PH:     Wow, that’s strange. They didn’t know who he was?

WS:     He was just as normal and ordinary, I’d never have dreamed there was
anything unusual about him.

PH:     Did you write about this at all?

WS:     I might have. I don’t really recall. The other thing is, I can’t
remember where I got his name. I remember going to his office, I just can’t
remember how I found him.

PH:     Can you eat chocolate now?

WS:     Yes, I can. I don’t have any allergies now.

PH:     One of my concerns about your article was that I think some of this
should be given to the public. The idea of protocols, you don’t go up to
aliens, you don’t touch them, you don’t shake hands with them until you know
the protocol for that particular group. You need stand very still.

WS:     They can touch you. They have a way of….if you touch them, you would
probably have an allergic reaction. But if they touch you, you feel this
electricity in your nerves, and you don’t have an allergic reaction. But if
it’s the other way around, you do, and I warn people, you just don’t pat
them if you see them.

PH:     Well, it’s logical. This is a phenomenon that requires some ground
rules.

WS:     When you’re with them, it feels more like taming an animal. It feels
like being with an animal that’s more intelligent than you are. It’s not
like being with a human being. There is a total disconnect in culture. Their
faces don’t work like our faces, they’re like little forest animals, though
not from any forest I ever saw. That’s what people say. This woman said,
they came in through the window, I thought it was a raccoon. And then I
realized it wasn’t, it was one of these creatures.

PH:     The mistake we make here is in measuring everything against ourselves.
We can’t know what they are because we’re comparing them to us, and they’re
not us.  We need to develop communication skills and now is the time. Thank
you for sharing your Experiences.